ebichan_kung: I'm alive Sumith. ebichan_kung: i don't see other online. banduwgs: Sagarika, hope you are here... swickramasekera: hi all banduwgs: I just go a mail from Shi & asked him to log in yahoo. swickramasekera: Good swickramasekera: I just saw amaraweera online banduwgs: Please get him in. banduwgs: Meanwhile let me check is there anything on today's agenda which as specific to you two. So we can finish them up. swickramasekera: thanks sumith banduwgs: Banner printing (size/number of banners) Chinese fellows’ (expected) additional stay (who bares the cost APNG/Fellow?). Disaster Management Tutorial Isuru’s air ticket concern. Camp schedule. Sponsor presentation Time slots for general participants Lunch/Tea break arrangements. Selection location for site seeing. Islamic food issue. VDO service. APNG presentation on AP* meeting. swickramasekera: shall we take disaster management tutorial first banduwgs: 3. Disaster Management Tutorial banduwgs: Sagarika, do we have any more issues on this? swickramasekera: NO I think it is settled ebichan_kung: Hi Shi. banduwgs: Hi shi. swickramasekera: Isuru will join us as he committed banduwgs: We just started Agenda item "3 Disaster management" directly till other's come online. ebichan_kung: Hi Mr. Amaraweera chinashixh: hello all banduwgs: Sagarika, please verify the Disaster management web page Barry created and I modified. Please give your comments so that Kung/Barry can upload the page on web by Monday. chinashixh: could you give the whole agenda to me? banduwgs: Hi Mr. Amaraweera. Welcome. amaraw61: Some Tec prob arose and now it seems ok, hello to all swickramasekera: Sumith we need to update introduction part on this. Let me check this with isuru and confirmed to barry banduwgs: At the same time, please verify whehter Ravi has already inform his abscence & replacement of Isuru to APAN and update APAN also with your new plans. swickramasekera: Ok I will do it chinashixh: i am back chinashixh: please go ahead swickramasekera: Any more questions regarding disaster recovery workshop ebichan_kung: http://www.apan.net/meetings/xian2007/proposals/dm.html banduwgs: Kung, do you have any thing to clarify on DM tutorial? arahman_bgd: hello all ebichan_kung: do we need to modify the agenda on this page as same as the page that Barry has just created? banduwgs: All: Do you have any more concerns on Disaster mangement Tutorial (Y/N)? Then I can move to next. ebichan_kung: http://www.apng.org/9thcampDM.html amaraw61: Hello Abdur banduwgs: do we need to modify the agenda on this page as same as the page that Barry has just created? >>> not really. That's APAN format. However, we need to have a link on that page to our page, when we created it. ebichan_kung: Ok. swickramasekera: Only we need to put Isuru's name Instead of swickramasekera: Ravindra's name amaraw61: Is Ravi joining ? swickramasekera: No ebichan_kung: swickramasekera: Only we need to put Isuru's name Instead of swickramasekera: Ravindra's name>>OK. swickramasekera: Any other clarifications banduwgs: Is Ravi joining ? >>> No. you can remove it. swickramasekera: regarding DM banduwgs: Any other clarifications >>> All: (Y/N) please... amaraw61: N banduwgs: Hi All again! Please note that we started "DM tutorial" discussion before you all join in since we had Sagarika & Kung online. Since we have stayed enough others to join. Let' proceed with today's agenda. Are you all ready (Y/N)?? chinashixh: y swickramasekera: y amaraw61: Y ebichan_kung: y banduwgs: OK. Here is the agenda for the day. banduwgs: 1. Banner printing (size/number of banners) 2. Chinese fellows’ (expected) additional stay (who bares the cost APNG/Fellow?). 3. Disaster Management Tutorial 4. Isuru’s air ticket concern. 5. Camp schedule. 5.1. Sponsor presentation 5.2. Time slots for general participants 6. Lunch/Tea break arrangements. 7. Selection location for site seeing. 8. Islamic food issue. 9. VDO service. 10. APNG presentation on AP* meeting. banduwgs: Let me start with 1. Banner printing (size/number of banners) banduwgs: 1.1. No of Banners? banduwgs: How many do we need to print (2, 3 or any other number please). amaraw61: I think 3banners are ok swickramasekera: Hi all I am in a hurry to go banduwgs: My answer is 3. swickramasekera: HOpe to meet you at the camp ebichan_kung: 2 banners is ok. swickramasekera: bye banduwgs: This is what we decide before. chinashixh: we had better consider where banners will be hanged banduwgs: Bye sagarika. amaraw61: Bigger one for above the podium, one @ the entrance to the Seminar room third is for outside ebichan_kung: Shi, do we need to adjust the size of banner? banduwgs: Bigger one for above the podium, one @ the entrance to the Seminar room third is for outside >>> Yes, this is what we thought. chinashixh: Shi, do we need to adjust the size of banner? >> i think the banner ourside should be larger amaraw61: Bye Sagarika banduwgs: Can we first agree on the number of banners first. amaraw61: Yes ebichan_kung: ok. amaraw61: 03 Nos banduwgs: We have two options (2/3) Please give your preference. banduwgs: My suggestion is 3. chinashixh: 3 is ok banduwgs: Abdur are you there? banduwgs: OK. Then let's have 3. ebichan_kung: OK. ebichan_kung: next is the size of banner. banduwgs: Then, what are the sized of them. chinashixh: the one outside should be large banduwgs: WE are going to have 1. Outside banduwgs: 2. In front of the room. amaraw61: in cm or inches? better to have in cm banduwgs: 3. As the room backdrop. ebichan_kung: the original designed size is 36*18 (inch) chinashixh: 1 inch = 2.54cm (around) banduwgs: in cm or inches? better to have in cm >>> This is just a matter of converting the units I guess. but the size will remain similar. chinashixh: 36*18 (inch) is arond 92*46 cm. Right? banduwgs: the original designed size is 36*18 (inch) >>> This is the good size for outside the room. chinashixh: is it too small??? chinashixh: i do not think it is obviously seen outside amaraw61: 36X18 seems ok banduwgs: the original designed size is 36*18 (inch) >>> This is the good size for outside the room. >>> Agree (Y/N) Please... amaraw61: Y ebichan_kung: Y chinashixh: is it large enough?? is 36*18 (inch) arond 92*46 cm? banduwgs: Hi Hikita son. Good evening. amaraw61: Hello Hikita-San banduwgs: WE are discussing banner sizes now. hikita_a: hello all. banduwgs: the original designed size is 36*18 (inch) >>> This is the good size for outside the room. >>> Agree (Y/N) Please... chinashixh: hello. hikita-san banduwgs: Shi, Hikita-son Y/N for previous question please. chinashixh: 36*18 (inch) = 92*46 (cm). Am i right? hikita_a: Yes it is enough, I think. ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: 36*18 (inch) = 92*46 (cm). Am i right?>>sorry i don't have a ruler in hand. amaraw61: Yes, I have a mesuring tape in my hand, those dimensions are ok banduwgs: 36*18 (inch) = 92*46 (cm). Am i right? >>> I guess so. chinashixh: ok. then it is ok:) banduwgs: Ok. we are done with it. banduwgs: Then can we use the same size for room back drop (Y/N). If no what's the size you propose.... ebichan_kung: Then can we use the same size for room back drop (Y/N).>>Y hikita_a: Yes, it is enough even for streaming. ebichan_kung: By the way i have done the certificates printing yesterday. chinashixh: ok banduwgs: Amaraweera, Shi, Abdur?? chinashixh: y banduwgs: OK. with heigher number of votes let's go for it. banduwgs: Next. the banner outside: Do you agree the same size (Y/N). If no what's your proposal? hikita_a: Y amaraw61: We may use a larger one for the room backdrop, say; 60X20 in. banduwgs: My guess is we should go for a bit bigger one. banduwgs: 48*24 chinashixh: actually, i still think 36*18 inch is a little small amaraw61: Yes in cm it is 154X52 chinashixh: either in meeting room or outside hikita_a: If there are any difficultyes or any other cost, I think bigger one is welcome. banduwgs: We may use a larger one for the room backdrop, say; 60X20 in. >>> This is not the scale (hightxwidth) of the decign. Additionally, we have gone for the higher number of votes here and we are done with it. chinashixh: hikita_a: If there are any difficultyes or any other cost, I think bigger one is welcome. >> i agree with bigger banners amaraw61: Outside, Sumiths measurements seems ok banduwgs: OK. Considering all your comments. Let me reconsider "Room back drop & outside banner". amaraw61: Ya banduwgs: Can we all agree the size 48x24 inches for these two banners (Y/N). If no your proposal.... hikita_a: Y amaraw61: Y banduwgs: Kung, Shi? ebichan_kung: y chinashixh: here is the cost of print banners: chinashixh: > size(cm) two-side one-side > > 240 * 160 RMB 320 RMB 160 > > 192 * 128 RMB 260 RMB 120 > > 144 * 96 RMB 180 RMB 80 > > 96 * 64 RMB 100 RMB 40 banduwgs: OK. Let's select the most closely fit one with us. chinashixh: i think 144cm or 192 cm will be better hikita_a: I think so, too chinashixh: hight:width=2:3 in the above list chinashixh: Xiaohui Shi: hight:width=2:3 in the above list >> i think they can also print our banner banduwgs: I guess, the printers will not have a problem of sticking with our ratio (1:2). banduwgs: So let me ask Xiaohui to get the exact prices for our banners with requested sizes. The cost seems affordable acording to abouve prices. amaraw61: 48=122cm; 24=61cm Shi , are those of your dimensions accordinly with ratio ? chinashixh: banduwgs: I guess, the printers will not have a problem of sticking with our ratio (1:2). >> agree banduwgs: So let me ask Xiaohui to get the exact prices for our banners with requested sizes. The cost seems affordable acording to abouve prices. >>> Do you all agree (Y/N). ebichan_kung: Y chinashixh: wait ebichan_kung: the cost is very low there. banduwgs: wait >>>> yes shi??? chinashixh: i think we had better decide the width of banners chinashixh: there is not much time left for banner printing banduwgs: According to our discussions so far we need following banners. chinashixh: note Ting Liu told me we'd better send it to factory at least one week before banduwgs: 1. 18 inch x 36 inch (hight x width) & 2. 24 x 48 banners. amaraw61: I have a visitor, So I will join asap chinashixh: Jayatunga Amaraweera: 48=122cm; 24=61cm Shi , are those of your dimensions accordinly with ratio ? >> approximately banduwgs: 1. 18 inch x 36 inch (hight x width) & 2. 24 x 48 banners. >>> So we are done with it. Shi & Others: Do you have any other issue? chinashixh: banduwgs: 1. 18 inch x 36 inch (hight x width) & 2. 24 x 48 banners. >>> So we are done with it. Shi & Others: Do you have any other issue? >> 3 banners with same size. right? banduwgs: In a case of Printeres cannot print exact sizes, Shi, you can decide on hte closest size fit with this. banduwgs: No. banduwgs: 1 with 18x36 banduwgs: 2 with 24 x 48. banduwgs: Any more concens on this? banduwgs: (Y/N) please.... hikita_a: No. banduwgs: Hikita-son, Amaraweera, Shi, Kung? chinashixh: i still think it is small:( banduwgs: i still think it is small >>> Please propose your size...! chinashixh: since the cost is not so much. why will we not print bigger banners? ebichan_kung: that's big enough since we will have 3 banners there. banduwgs: Shi... size pleasee..... chinashixh: i suggest the width is 192cm or 144cm banduwgs: If you have no idea, let's agree with others decition... otherwise we will not have an end for this.... chinashixh: and height is half of this ebichan_kung: please be carefull about the quality of printing since the price is so cheap:) banduwgs: please be carefull about the quality of printing since the price is so cheap >>> Agree. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: please be carefull about the quality of printing since the price is so cheap >> that is what i am concerned. i will ask Ting Liu again about this ebichan_kung: please final the banner size then. banduwgs: 144 cm ~= 4.5 feets. banduwgs: What I suggested was 4 feets. chinashixh: we can hang the banner on top of wall banduwgs: we can hang the banner on top of wall >>> this will take care by LOC & hotel staff generally. banduwgs: we can hang the banner on top of wall >>> this will take care by LOC & hotel staff generally. >>> Am I correct Kung. chinashixh: however you can decide it. banduwgs: 144 cm ~= 4.5 feets. >>>> So Shi, go ahead with this option. ebichan_kung: Sumith Gamage: we can hang the banner on top of wall >>> this will take care by LOC & hotel staff generally. >>> Am I correct Kung.>>corrected. chinashixh: i prsonally think bigger banner will be obvious to see:) ebichan_kung: Will Mr. Amaraweera's student who is designed available to modify the size of banner again? banduwgs: Now we are done with banner sizes. Shi you are free to get the approximate relavent size (E.g. selecting 144cm instead of 48 inches. However, make sure to sticke with 1:2 ratiao). amaraw61: No hardly any time to modify. Univ. has closed now banduwgs: Yes, PSD version is there. chinashixh: so we will print as: banduwgs: 1 with 18x36 banduwgs: 2 with 24 x 48. chinashixh: right?? banduwgs: Shi you (or printer) can do nesosory changes. banduwgs: To Shi: right. chinashixh: if so, i will send to Xi'an fellow, Ting Liu banduwgs: We are done with banner (Y/N)??? ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: if so, i will send to Xi'an fellow, Ting Liu>>yes, please. ebichan_kung: Y amaraw61: Due to some student unrest @ kelaniya University , it has closed, I cant find the student, Sorry chinashixh: ok. banduwgs: Due to some student unrest @ kelaniya University , it has closed, I cant find the student, Sorry >>> no worries you have given the decign already. ebichan_kung: shall we go to the next item? chinashixh: please ebichan_kung: Chinese fellows’ (expected) additional stay (who bares the cost APNG/Fellow?). ebichan_kung: I put the item here Sumith. ebichan_kung: kungait: shall we go to the next item? Xiaohui Shi: please kungait: Chinese fellows’ (expected) additional stay (who bares the cost APNG/Fellow?). kungait: I put the item here Sumith. banduwgs: Sorry for the trouble. banduwgs: Yes. let me do it. banduwgs: 2. Chinese fellows’ (expected) additional stay (who bares the cost APNG/Fellow?). chinashixh: i think you have received my emails about thsi banduwgs: I think acording to Shi's explanation APNG has to bare this. chinashixh: some train line tickets are hardly booked in advance and also difficult to buy in train station banduwgs: I think acording to Shi's explanation APNG has to bare this. >>> Do you agree (Y/N) please... chinashixh: that is why local fellows asked me about shi banduwgs: My answer is Yes,.... chinashixh: y banduwgs: Hikita-son, Amaraweera, Kung??? ebichan_kung: Y amaraw61: Yes hikita_a: Y banduwgs: OK. Let me go to next item. banduwgs: 3. Disaster Management Tutorial >>> We are already done with this. banduwgs: Next... banduwgs: 4. Isuru’s air ticket concern. ... banduwgs: This problem is already solved. So he will take part in APNG. banduwgs: Do you have any thing more to clarify on this (Y/N) please... banduwgs: Amaraweera, Kung, Hikita-son, Shi??? hikita_a: Nothing especially ebichan_kung: that's ok. banduwgs: Kung, Shi, Amaraweera... amaraw61: N chinashixh: n ebichan_kung: N chinashixh: N banduwgs: OK. Going to next item... banduwgs: 5. Camp schedule. banduwgs: Hope all you recieved my new proposal of schedule.... banduwgs: (Y/N) please... hikita_a: Yes I got them. amaraw61: Y banduwgs: Sorry, let me ask the question again... banduwgs: Did you all recieve my mail on schedule update (Y/N) please. chinashixh: y amaraw61: Y hikita_a: Y ebichan_kung: that's fine. i can update it on the web asap. ebichan_kung: Y banduwgs: OK. Let me start with Day 1. banduwgs: Do you have any question about this (Y/N) please... banduwgs: Day 1: 27 August 2007, Monday Time Activity (Workshops are combined with APAN) M O R N I N G 09:00 – 10:30 “Digital Archive” workshop / Other APAN tracks 10:30 – 11:00 Morning Break 11:00 – 12:30 “Digital Archive” workshop / Other APAN tracks 12:30 – 13:30 Lunch Break A F T E R N O O N 13:30 – 15:30 “Digital Archive” workshop / Other APAN tracks 15:30 – 16:00 Afternoon Break 16:00 – 18:00 Disaster Management Workshop / “Digital Archive” workshop / Other APAN tracks E V E N I N G 18:00 – 22:00 1. APNG Welcome Drink 2. Introduction of Participants hikita_a: Yes, about APNG Welcome Drink, Will we have only drink? Is it dinner? ebichan_kung: dinner will be included. hikita_a: and we need to consider the time to move for dinner. banduwgs: dinner will be included >>> Yes, this is what have in Shi's menu selection. banduwgs: It's just a 10 min walk to Silk Road hotel. chinashixh: banduwgs: It's just a 10 min walk to Silk Road hotel. >> right ebichan_kung: we can just walk to silk road hotel after we have done the work shop. banduwgs: Any more concern on Day 1 Schedule (Y/N) please.... hikita_a: So we can start from 18:00 right? banduwgs: Yes. chinashixh: or a little later banduwgs: Any more concern on Day 1 Schedule (Y/N) please.... (Kung, Hikita, Amara, Shi).... ebichan_kung: N chinashixh: we can tell the hotel the accurate time on that day banduwgs: or a little later >>> yes, we can have time for a wash if needed. hikita_a: OK. I think it is better to write that we need to move to silkroad hotel after workshop. banduwgs: OK. I think it is better to write that we need to move to silkroad hotel after workshop. >>> 1. APNG Welcome Drink (@ Silk Road Hotel - 10 min walk) >>> is this what you expect? hikita_a: Yes thanks. chinashixh: do you mean we claim the dinner is in Silk Road Hotel? ebichan_kung: Should i add the place of welcome drink on schedule? banduwgs: Should i add the place of welcome drink on schedule? >>> (Y/N) please.... banduwgs: My answer is Yes (if we have decided. If not we can just leave without mentioning it). banduwgs: For example in this case yes. hikita_a: Yes. I think that is better. chinashixh: y ebichan_kung: Y. banduwgs: do you mean we claim the dinner is in Silk Road Hotel? >>> Else where is it? banduwgs: Shi: do you mean we claim the dinner is in Silk Road Hotel? >>> Else where is it? >>> ??? banduwgs: Shi are you there???? banduwgs: do you mean we claim the dinner is in Silk Road Hotel? >>> Kung, my answer to this is Yes. Am I correct? chinashixh: yes. no question about that:) chinashixh: yes banduwgs: OK. Let me go to Day 2: banduwgs: Day 2: 28 August 2007, Tuesday Time Activity M O R N I N G 09:00 – 09:05 09:05 – 09:15 09:15 – 09:30 09:30 – 09:40 09:40 – 09:50 09:50 – 10:00 10:00 – 10:10 10:10 – 10:30 1. Opening by Camp Chair (Xiaohui Shi) 2. What & Why APNG (Tommy Matsumoto) 3. E-learning & Live E! WG Overview (Atsushi Hikita) 4. Internet Technology WG Overview (Dihan Morawaka) 5. Disaster Management & E-health WG Overview (Shyama Sagarika) 6. Internet Culture & Blog WG Overview (Kashif Adeel) 7. E-commerce & Business Startup WG Overview (Abdur Rahman) 8. ICANN ALAC and APRALO activities (ICANN delegate) 10:30 – 11:00 Morning Break 11:00 – 11:55 11:55 – 12:05 12:05 – 12:30 1. From WebArchive to WebDigest (Prof. Li Xiaoming) 2. Introduction to SCC (Yubong Kim) 3. D banduwgs: 3. Discussion about Local Camp Activities (Sumith Gamage) 12:30 – 13:30 Lunch Break A F T E R N O O N 13:30 – 13:40 13:40 – 14:35 14:35 – 15:30 1. General Participant Presentation (Ms. Ae ryong O) 2. Keynote Presentation 2 (Mr. Ching Chiao) 3. Keynote Presentation 3 (Prof. Kanchana Kanchanasut) 15:30 – 16:00 Afternoon Break 16:00 – 16:55 16:55 – 17:50 17:50 – 18:00 1. Introduction to FOSS (Dr. Nimal Ratnayake) 2. Keynote Presentation 5 (Prof. Xiaohong Guan) 3. Overview of next day's schedule & heading (Sumith Gamage) E V E N I N G 18:00 – 22:00 APAN Reception banduwgs: I have changed the session between Morning Tea & Afternoon Tea.... banduwgs: Please give your comments. banduwgs: Pay your attention to change in "Keynote speakers" time slots. banduwgs: Cancellation of Guest/Sponsor speaches. amaraw61: I agree with yours hikita_a: Me too. banduwgs: & Adding new slots for two general participant's presentations. amaraw61: It is very good to give them a chance chinashixh: banduwgs: Pay your attention to change in "Keynote speakers" time slots. >> we must inform those speakers about time change banduwgs: Hope Speaker's with not have that problem of these slight changes of time slots. We have to finalize with them on this. ebichan_kung: i remembered that Kashif has informed them once. ebichan_kung: but i'm not sure about the confirmation from those speakers. banduwgs: we must inform those speakers about time change >>> Exactly. That's what I already requestion from you (Shi), Kung & Kashif. chinashixh: but i am not sure whether speakers have already known the time change. better to inform once again:) banduwgs: but i am not sure whether speakers have already known the time change. better to inform once again >>> Kung, please do this with Prof. Kanchana banduwgs: but i am not sure whether speakers have already known the time change. better to inform once again >>> Shi: Do this with Chinese speakers. banduwgs: but i am not sure whether speakers have already known the time change. better to inform once again >> I will do with Dr. Nimal. ebichan_kung: i can remind her again. banduwgs: Kung: Please inform relavent general participants the time slots allocated for them. chinashixh: banduwgs: but i am not sure whether speakers have already known the time change. better to inform once again >>> Shi: Do this with Chinese speakers. >> sure ebichan_kung: Sumith Gamage: Kung: Please inform relavent general participants the time slots allocated for them.>>OK thanks banduwgs: Any more concerns on day 2 (Y/N) please ....???? chinashixh: make sure we won't change speakers' time any more chinashixh: i think they will be confused if we always change time banduwgs: make sure we won't change speakers' time any more >>> I agree :) banduwgs: i think they will be confused if we always change time >>> We did not change their timeslots before at all. This is the first time we do so. chinashixh: :) banduwgs: Any more concerns on day 2 (Y/N) please ....???? Kung, Shi, Hikita, Amare....????? hikita_a: I agree. ebichan_kung: N chinashixh: N banduwgs: Day 3: Only change i did in first session: banduwgs: Time Activity – Fellowship Presentations (2 Tracks) Track 1 (Internet Technology WG; E-commerce & Business Startup WG) Track 2 ( Disaster Management & E-health WG ; E-Learning &Live E! WG; Internet Culture & Blog WG ) M O R N I N G 09:00 – 09:20 09:20 – 09:40 09:40 – 10:00 10:00 – 10:20 10:20 – 10:40 Sumith Gamage (LK) Yan Jing (CN) Xiaohui Shi (CN) Chansiphea Chuon (KH) Ting Liu (CN) Syed Shams Uddin Ahmad (PK) Amrita Khakurel (NP) Sana Gul (PK) Rittick Borah (IN) Sumbul Khawaja (PK) 10:40 – 11:10 Morning Break banduwgs: We want to put content of replaced fellow instead of Yan Jing (CN). banduwgs: Kung, hope you will do this by Monday and inform corresponding fellow. banduwgs: Do you have any more concerns on this (Day 3) - Y/N please..... ebichan_kung: ok. hikita_a: N ebichan_kung: N banduwgs: Day 4: banduwgs: I propose following changes according to Shi's concern of Site visit time allocation.... banduwgs: Time Activity M O R N I N G 09:00 – 10:30 Live-E! Project Workshop jointly with APAN 10:30 – 11:00 Morning Break 11:00 – 12:30 Live-E! Project Workshop jointly with APAN 12:30 – 13:00 Distribution of Certificates 13:00 – 14:00 Lunch Break A F T E R N O O N 14:00 – 14:30 WG Reports (on wheel J) 14:30 – 15:15 APNG Annual General Meeting (on wheel J) 15:15 – 15:30 Closing Ceremony (on wheel J) 15:30 – 16:00 Afternoon Break (outside as required. Need to cancel hotel booking for the afternoon tea.) 16:00 – 18:00 Team building E V E N I N G 18:00 – 22:00 Dinner banduwgs: Here are the noticible changes here. banduwgs: 1. Dinner has shifted one hour 13:00 - 14:00 >>> Kung we need to inform this to hotel if we go for this. banduwgs: 2. Distribution of certificate move 12:30 to 13:00. banduwgs: 3. 14:00 - 15:30 session we will have while travelling on the bus >>> Shi: How many hours will we have to be on the bus??? banduwgs: WE did all these changes since it was not enough to leave hotel by 4:00pm (according to previous schedule) since most of the visiting sites are closed @ 5:00 pm. chinashixh: do you mean we will have WG Reports-Closing Ceremony on bus?? banduwgs: Do you agree with this schedule (Y/N). If no what are your concernts?? chinashixh: banduwgs: WE did all these changes since it was not enough to leave hotel by 4:00pm (according to previous schedule) since most of the visiting sites are closed @ 5:00 pm. >> but i do not think meeting on bus is proper... banduwgs: do you mean we will have WG Reports-Closing Ceremony on bus?? >>> Yes, this is what I suggest if we have 1 & half hour travel to the site seeing place. That will be more fun & a new experience for sure. However, we have to plan it carefully. chinashixh: banduwgs: do you mean we will have WG Reports-Closing Ceremony on bus?? >>> Yes, this is what I suggest if we have 1 & half hour travel to the site seeing place. That will be more fun & a new experience for sure. However, we have to plan it carefully. >> if we will do so, we must make more exact schedule. we should get exact travelling time, etc banduwgs: Please consider this is my personal suggestion. Your ideas are welcome. However, please note Shi's concern that it is not enough to leave hotel @ 4pm for site seeing. amaraw61: Wonderful Suggession, Sumith. It' would be a significant event then. hikita_a: Distribution of Certificates and Closing ceremony, we can make them at dinner time. banduwgs: if we will do so, we must make more exact schedule. we should get exact travelling time, etc >>> Yes, this is where we need your help. chinashixh: i think we should do a survey on the travelling time to sightseeing after we arrive in Xi'an. we may change the schedule during camp banduwgs: Distribution of Certificates and Closing ceremony, we can make them at dinner time. >>> Good point. However the type of lunch (if buffet or something similar) how practical will it be??? chinashixh: banduwgs: Please consider this is my personal suggestion. Your ideas are welcome. However, please note Shi's concern that it is not enough to leave hotel @ 4pm for site seeing. >> for Museum of Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses, it is about 1-1.5 hours away from incity. NOT SURE hikita_a: Please consider that this sight seeing is only the time for someone like me. banduwgs: i think we should do a survey on the travelling time to sightseeing after we arrive in Xi'an. we may change the schedule during camp >>> This is totally fine. However, we have to make the decision if the travelling time is so long, will we have sessions while travelling... chinashixh: banduwgs: Distribution of Certificates and Closing ceremony, we can make them at dinner time. >>> Good point. However the type of lunch (if buffet or something similar) how practical will it be??? >> sounds good banduwgs: Please consider that this sight seeing is only the time for someone like me. >>> I am not sure what you meant here. However, we are not going to tarnish your time of site seeing. We are going to utilize only the (boring) travelling time.... chinashixh: i agree with this suggestion at present hikita_a: This term building is only the time to see Xian city for most of paticipants, so take a long time is very much welcome. chinashixh: i think the travelling time will be used by this proposal banduwgs: Let me get back to having certificate distribution + closing @ dinner time >>> Do you thing this will be practical? If so I love to go for this. ebichan_kung: i think we should do this as an official distribution. chinashixh: i agree. we will take photos then:) ebichan_kung: the photo would be nicer. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: i think we should do this as an official distribution. >> yes. before dinner. just in the dinner place. is it official enough? ebichan_kung: with the banner. banduwgs: This term building is only the time to see Xian city for most of paticipants, so take a long time is very much welcome. >>> Yes. But still we have to stick with Agenda too. We have to make the decision between whether we leave early for the site seeing by utilizing travelling time or Are we going to finish every thing in hotel and leave for site seeing later. hikita_a: Can we bring the banner out to the restaurant? banduwgs: Ok. Let's plan the photo time just before the dinner with the banner. banduwgs: Can we bring the banner out to the restaurant? >>> yes, this will be possible since that is the end of the event. banduwgs: Let's plan the photo time just before the dinner with the banner. (Y/N) please ???? amaraw61: Sorry, I am still engaed with the visitor on some education matter, I also agree with siteseeing arrangements and Certificate awarding ceremony schadule. chinashixh: banduwgs: Can we bring the banner out to the restaurant? >>> yes, this will be possible since that is the end of the event.>> i also agree banduwgs: Hikita, Amaraweera, Kung, Shi? amaraw61: Photo taking time Y ebichan_kung: Y hikita_a: Y banduwgs: OK. Considering all the facts about site seeing we have following 3 options. banduwgs: 1. Finish every thing in hotel and leave for site seeing @ 4:00 pm. banduwgs: 2. Utilize lunch time for certificate distribution + closing event & leave hotel @ 3:00 pm. banduwgs: 3. Utilize travelling time for WG Reports + AGM + Closing event and leave hotel @ 2:00 pm. banduwgs: What's your option preference? ebichan_kung: that's fine Sumith. chinashixh: actually option 2 is more official than option 3. if travelling time is less than 1 hour, i vote for option2. if travelling time is more than 1 hour, i agree with 3. banduwgs: I love option 2 if it is practical. Additionally, we will have to have WG report on wheel. If it is not practical we should go for option 3. Option 1 is out as I feel. hikita_a: I agree with sumith. chinashixh: so whether 2 or 3 will depend on travelling time. Am i right? banduwgs: so whether 2 or 3 will depend on travelling time. Am i right? >>> + practical feasibility of utilizing lunch time for certificate distribution + closing ceramony. chinashixh: ok. isee banduwgs: OK. Can I conclude that committe dicision as follows. banduwgs: We will utilize lunch for some APNG activities like certificate distribution & closing ceramony. If we need more time for the events like AGM & WG reports, we will use the travelling time as required. banduwgs: Do you agree on this (Y/N) please ???? hikita_a: Y ebichan_kung: Y chinashixh: Y banduwgs: Then here are the things we need to do immediately as I see: banduwgs: Kung/Shi: Please check with LOC & Hotel whether we can practically utilize lunch time for the events like certificate distribution + AGM + Closing event. chinashixh: kung, i think the email should be sent by you. banduwgs: Sumith: Inform this new plans to Tommy-son, camp-committe and get their inputs. chinashixh: banduwgs: Sumith: Inform this new plans to Tommy-son, camp-committe and get their inputs. >>sure ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: kung, i think the email should be sent by you.>>OK banduwgs: Kung/Barry: Update Website (& send emails to participants if required.) banduwgs: People meeting on 23rd: Plan the schedule and activities carefully, since this is going to be something unusual. banduwgs: Any thing else? banduwgs: (Y/N) if No what are they? banduwgs: (Y/N) if No what are they? >>> sorry it should be correcte as (Y/N) if YES what are they? banduwgs: ;) hikita_a: N chinashixh: what do you mean by "people meeting on 23"? ebichan_kung: i don't understand too. chinashixh: who will we have on 23? banduwgs: Tommy-son, You (Shi), Sumith (and other committe members from SL if required) ebichan_kung: ic banduwgs: who will we have on 23? >>> Sorry this may be the meeting on 25th even, since WE have Kung too. chinashixh: when will you be in Xi'an? ebichan_kung: but i can not join the meeting on 23rd Aug as you know. banduwgs: when will you be in Xi'an? >>> 23rd. I cannot remember the exact time off the head. ebichan_kung: we have scheduled on 25th Aug at 1 pm. is it right? banduwgs: but i can not join the meeting on 23rd Aug as you know. >>. Let's have it on 25th. banduwgs: OK. Can we consider this point is done (Y/N) please .... chinashixh: banduwgs: when will you be in Xi'an? >>> 23rd. I cannot remember the exact time off the head. ?? i thought you will arrive on 25th:( amaraw61: Sorry, we are still on the Air on 23rd, So we cannot meet on 23rd, 25th can ebichan_kung: anyway you all can go ahead on 23rd. ebichan_kung: Jayatunga Amaraweera: Sorry, we are still on the Air on 23rd, So we cannot meet on 23rd, 25th can>>Ohh really? banduwgs: My appointment in Beijing was cancelled! So I got back to original plan. amaraw61: We are landing on 23rd, don't know the exact time in Xian chinashixh: banduwgs: My appointment in Beijing was cancelled! So I got back to original plan. >> so i will see you on 23th ebichan_kung: how abour other Sri Lankans fellows? banduwgs: how abour other Sri Lankans fellows? >>> yes, all. amaraw61: All 5SL fellows are flying together and reach Xian together chinashixh: will all of us go to Silk Road Hotel directly? amaraw61: Ok nice for me banduwgs: Here is our itenarary: banduwgs: > TG 308 23 AUG CMB BKK 0120 / 0615 Pending > > TG 618 23 AUG BKK CTU 1045 / 1455 Pending > > MU2348 23AUG CTU XIY 1600 1710 Confirmed ebichan_kung: so, the accommodation i reserved for Sri Lankans fellows are confirmed ? amaraw61: Sumith all segments are confirmed now banduwgs: So we will be in Xi'an 1710 + what ever the transport time to hotel. banduwgs: Sumith all segments are confirmed now >>> Correct. ebichan_kung: Jayatunga Amaraweera: Sorry, we are still on the Air on 23rd, So we cannot meet on 23rd, 25th can>>what about your Jamaraweera? is your flight same as above schedule? amaraw61: what is the mode of our travelling? chinashixh: you can call me if you have any problems. i am going to arrive in the afternoon chinashixh: maybe in the noon on 23th:) banduwgs: OK. Can we consider as we are done with point 5. Schedule (Y/N) please... amaraw61: It is me the ID in my Hotmail amaraw61: Y chinashixh: Y hikita_a: Y banduwgs: Kun? ebichan_kung: Y banduwgs: Next point: banduwgs: 6. Lunch/Tea break arrangements. banduwgs: We have two options here. ebichan_kung: ok Sumith. banduwgs: 1. Silk Road Hotel (cheep). banduwgs: 2. Sheroton Hotel (Expensive). banduwgs: We have already confirmed with Sheronton hotel but, we are running in to budjet problems. banduwgs: So Tommy-son identified Silk Road Hotel as a good alternative. chinashixh: since there is only ONE hour for lunch, i personally suggest we maintain the previous plan (sheroton). participants will be relaxed during lunch. chinashixh: if we spend time on walking for lunch, we will be tired in the afternoon banduwgs: since there is only ONE hour for lunch, i personally suggest we maintain the previous plan (sheroton). participants will be relaxed during lunch. >>> I think 10 min walking is not too much. Any way walking itself a relaxing way. hikita_a: Consider about our budjet, we should to choose 1. amaraw61: how is the climate there? banduwgs: if we spend time on walking for lunch, we will be tired in the afternoon >>> Comeon. We are sitting all the day on the meeting room. Walking is a good excercise in that sence. banduwgs: how is the climate there? >>> Good point. But as I heard it is summer there, so nothing to worry about this. amaraw61: Need to take an umberella chinashixh: Jayatunga Amaraweera: how is the climate there? >> if there is no rain, it will be a little hot. about 35'C banduwgs: Consider about our budjet, we should to choose 1. >>> Exactly. ebichan_kung: Sumith Gamage: if we spend time on walking for lunch, we will be tired in the afternoon >>> Comeon. We are sitting all the day on the meeting room. Walking is a good excercise in that sence.>>and we also have the budget problem as we know. chinashixh: Xiaohui Shi: Jayatunga Amaraweera: how is the climate there? >> if there is no rain, it will be a little hot. about 35'C >> even hotter:( amaraw61: ok 01 chinashixh: then how about coffee break? chinashixh: kung, what are the total sponsor we have got? 30500 USD? banduwgs: The only concern I have in going to option 01 is the cancellation of already booked lunches at Sheronton. Kung/Shi: Is this practically possible considering our budget concerns? banduwgs: then how about coffee break? >>> Obvoiosly we should stick with Sheronton for this. We do not have time to walk to Silk Road in this case. banduwgs: kung, what are the total sponsor we have got? 30500 USD? + CERNET chinashixh: banduwgs: The only concern I have in going to option 01 is the cancellation of already booked lunches at Sheronton. Kung/Shi: Is this practically possible considering our budget concerns? >> i personally think it is not nice if we cancel banduwgs: CERNET ~= 970 USD ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: kung, what are the total sponsor we have got? 30500 USD?>>31470 USD (included of dinner supporting from CERNET) chinashixh: banduwgs: kung, what are the total sponsor we have got? 30500 USD? + CERNET >> then the latest budget is? banduwgs: banduwgs: The only concern I have in going to option 01 is the cancellation of already booked lunches at Sheronton. Kung/Shi: Is this practically possible considering our budget concerns? >> i personally think it is not nice if we cancel >>> Then what is the alternative you propose? chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: Xiaohui Shi: kung, what are the total sponsor we have got? 30500 USD?>>31470 USD (included of dinner supporting from CERNET) >> we need not consider the two dinners in bubget any more ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: banduwgs: The only concern I have in going to option 01 is the cancellation of already booked lunches at Sheronton. Kung/Shi: Is this practically possible considering our budget concerns? >> i personally think it is not nice if we cancel >>let's see what the feedback from LOC. chinashixh: banduwgs: banduwgs: The only concern I have in going to option 01 is the cancellation of already booked lunches at Sheronton. Kung/Shi: Is this practically possible considering our budget concerns? >> i personally think it is not nice if we cancel >>> Then what is the alternative you propose? >> so i just suggest we go ahead with the original plan in sheraton. banduwgs: let's see what the feedback from LOC. >>> I agree. chinashixh: banduwgs: let's see what the feedback from LOC. >>> I agree. >> then just have a try. banduwgs: so i just suggest we go ahead with the original plan in sheraton >>> How to cover budget difference? chinashixh: what is the total budget without two dinners? banduwgs: If we go with Sheronton proposal we have $2,884.39 as I estimated. ebichan_kung: USD30500 banduwgs: If we remove two $20 dinners completely, we still lack of $764.39. However, what is your suggestion for two dinners then? chinashixh: i mean what is total estimated bubget? 34000USD? banduwgs: i mean what is total estimated bubget? 34000USD? >>> $34,354.63 with two $20 dinners. banduwgs: Please note that I have send all these budget plans on excel sheets to the camp-committee several times. chinashixh: banduwgs: Please note that I have send all these budget plans on excel sheets to the camp-committee several times. >> yes. i just want to confirm:) ebichan_kung: Shi: kindly suggest the better option. chinashixh: Xiaohui Shi: banduwgs: let's see what the feedback from LOC. >>> I agree. >> then just have a try. >> ok. just try to ask APAN LOC firstly banduwgs: I just send it back again. Please check your email. chinashixh: then we can ask Silk Road Hotel for lunches chinashixh: banduwgs: I just send it back again. Please check your email. >> i will ebichan_kung: you mean cancel the lunch with LOC? banduwgs: OK. Can we consider the committee agreed to go with Silk Road Hotel Lunch (Y/N). If No what is the alternative. ebichan_kung: if they are OK you will ask Silk Road for lunch, right? chinashixh: we should confirm silk road hotel can support lunch, then we may cancel lunch in sheraton ebichan_kung: I told them that i will confirm everything we need by tomorrow morning since they will have to issue the invoice. banduwgs: you mean cancel the lunch with LOC? >>> I am not sure to whom you are directing the question. However, my suggestion is as follows. banduwgs: 1. Let's inform LOC that we have a budget concern. So we want to cut down costs. ebichan_kung: thanks a lot for your suggestion Sumith. It's helpful. banduwgs: 2. We identified having RMB 50/head lunch @ Silk Road Hotel for all 4 days will help us on this. banduwgs: 3. Ask them whether LOC can arrange this for us. banduwgs: 4. Inform them that we will still stick with Sheronton tea break. banduwgs: 5. Please send your email draft to Tommy-son & Camp committe before sending it for confirmation. ebichan_kung: :) amaraw61: OK accepted banduwgs: 6. Shi: If you never mind please inform/explain LOC the situation informally over the phone to reduce the resistence we get from them. banduwgs: All: Any other point to add this (Y/N). If yes, please go ahead and do... amaraw61: N banduwgs: Shi are you there? ebichan_kung: N hikita_a: N banduwgs: 6. Shi: If you never mind please inform/explain LOC the situation informally over the phone to reduce the resistence we get from them. >>> Shi what's your thought here??? chinashixh: banduwgs: 6. Shi: If you never mind please inform/explain LOC the situation informally over the phone to reduce the resistence we get from them. >> i am not sure how they will respond to our request... ebichan_kung: Shi, let me email them then. chinashixh: i think they do not like changing original reservation banduwgs: i am not sure how they will respond to our request... >>> Do you think it is better Kung to send email, rather you explaining them the situation in a more understandable language (Chinese)? chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: Shi, let me email them then. >> ok. i will try to explain to them if necessary:) banduwgs: i think they do not like changing original reservation >>> yes, we tooo. But there are things beyond the control many of the time when we organize this sort of events. Generally, profesional organizers understand and accept this sort of schenarios. chinashixh: banduwgs: i am not sure how they will respond to our request... >>> Do you think it is better Kung to send email, rather you explaining them the situation in a more understandable language (Chinese)? >> i suggest Kung send an email and I call a phone at the same time banduwgs: ok. i will try to explain to them if necessary >>> Thanks! chinashixh: ok banduwgs: i suggest Kung send an email and I call a phone at the same time >>> yes, this is fine. chinashixh: banduwgs: ok. i will try to explain to them if necessary >>> Thanks! >> this is my duty:) ebichan_kung: email from me will be a simple one. chinashixh: kung, please cc to me when sending the email to APAN Loc banduwgs: this is my duty >>> Yes, this is why we have having such a nice Camp chair in China ;) ebichan_kung: it's better to get your supporting. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: email from me will be a simple one. >> the email should declare our opinion banduwgs: Can I move to next point (Y/N) please.... ebichan_kung: sure. ebichan_kung: Y chinashixh: Y amaraw61: Y banduwgs: Hikita-son? hikita_a: Y banduwgs: 7. Selection location for site seeing. banduwgs: My suggestion is Terra-cotta worriers. banduwgs: What others think? chinashixh: here are the sightseeing spot I sent before: 1. Museum of Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses 2. Mausoleum of the first Qin Emperor 3. Huaqing Hot Springs 4. Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta) 5. Xi'An City Wall 6. Forest of Stone Steles Museum 7. Shaanxi History Museum 8. Tang Paradise 9. Others: Great Mosque, Banpo Museum, etc. chinashixh: Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses is most famous hikita_a: I intend to go 4. banduwgs: What's other's interest? Heigher the vote will win here :) banduwgs: Option 1: 1 vote so far. banduwgs: Option 4: 1 vote so far :D banduwgs: Amaraweera, Kung, Shi??? ebichan_kung: 4 chinashixh: 1 amaraw61: Op 6 ebichan_kung: hehe ebichan_kung: how to final then? banduwgs: OK. We are going ahead with Option 4. Contratulations :(( amaraw61: HEEE chinashixh: only 2 votes for option 4 banduwgs: Any way that's good since it is cheaper to option 1. (I did not noticed it before). chinashixh: option 1 has 2 votes too ebichan_kung: 4. Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta) >>but this is not nice for Muslim, right? ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: option 1 has 2 votes too>>yes. banduwgs: option 1 has 2 votes too >>> Wait Chinese vote has less value in this case ;) amaraw61: Then shall I vote for op 1? chinashixh: banduwgs: option 1 has 2 votes too >>> Wait Chinese vote has less value in this case >> why? i have not been in Xi'an before hikita_a: If we need to choose just one, I vote 1. banduwgs: Then shall I vote for op 1? >>> No. Please do for option 4. It will save our fellows money a bit since it is extreamly expensive :( chinashixh: my suggestion is that: amaraw61: I am same as Hikita san banduwgs: Wait! Let me explain a bit here. Then do your voting. chinashixh: camp sightseeing spot is 1. Museum of Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses. if you have other time, any other place will be choices banduwgs: 1. Option 1 is USD 80, Option 4 is USD 20. According to our budget committee decided to let fellows/participants to buy the tickets. So selecting an expensive place is not nice in my personal openion. banduwgs: 2. We have three options to select with (1/4/6). banduwgs: Please select your option now. banduwgs: I go for option 4. banduwgs: Kung, Hikita, Shi, Amare??? chinashixh: banduwgs: 1. Option 1 is USD 80, Option 4 is USD 20. According to our budget committee decided to let fellows/participants to buy the tickets. So selecting an expensive place is not nice in my personal openion. >> but i think most fellows will be willing to Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses hikita_a: 1. chinashixh: meanwhile, i am not sure whether 4. Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta) will take so much time to visit banduwgs: but i think most fellows will be willing to Qin Terra-cotta Warriors and Horses >>> If they can afford that ticket price. They can visit the place on a different day before or after camp. amaraw61: Money is not the matter, World famous monument of terra-cotta thing my choice banduwgs: Kung: what is your choise now? chinashixh: i still vote for 1 ebichan_kung: actually usd80 is too much for me. ebichan_kung: i go to option 4. banduwgs: Hikita-son: Let me clarify. You like Terra-cotta or Big Wild Goose Pagoda? amaraw61: terracotta monuments symbolise the ancient chinese culture chinashixh: i will collect how much time these site will cost. i think we should consider the visiting time as well!!! banduwgs: Hikita-son: Let me clarify. You like Terra-cotta or Big Wild Goose Pagoda? >>> Hikita-son we are waiting for your answer???? chinashixh: i do not think we must make a decision on the sightseeing site today. hikita_a: I choose 1. most famous place in Xian banduwgs: OK. We are decided then. ebichan_kung: If we go to Option 4, Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta), do you thing it will be OK for Muslim? chinashixh: Xiaohui Shi: i do not think we must make a decision on the sightseeing site today. >> we may leave it in Xi'an banduwgs: We selected Option 1. Terra cotta with higher votes. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: If we go to Option 4, Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta), do you thing it will be OK for Muslim? >> maybe hikita_a: If Muslim people do not mind, Pagoda will never mind it. > Kung. chinashixh: i will collect exact time for travelling and visiting of these place ebichan_kung: anyway i like to visit Pagoda and temple:) banduwgs: Xiaohui Shi: i do not think we must make a decision on the sightseeing site today. >> we may leave it in Xi'an >>> Option 1 Terra cotta is the committee decision on this for now. But let's not publish it to the public (website) yet since there is a possibility of changing this decision even in the last moment. chinashixh: time will decide whether the place is practical or not banduwgs: kungait Boonrat: If we go to Option 4, Big Wild Goose Pagoda (Dayan Ta), do you thing it will be OK for Muslim? >> maybe >>> our selection should be fair with all APNG participants. hikita_a: me too, kung. chinashixh: banduwgs: Xiaohui Shi: i do not think we must make a decision on the sightseeing site today. >> we may leave it in Xi'an >>> Option 1 Terra cotta is the committee decision on this for now. But let's not publish it to the public (website) yet since there is a possibility of changing this decision even in the last moment. >> i agree banduwgs: time will decide whether the place is practical or not >>> Yes. chinashixh: i will go there also chinashixh: kung, we may go there together banduwgs: anyway i like to visit Pagoda and temple >>> I will join this visit before or after Camp, if you like. Let's decide that in Xi'an. ebichan_kung: Shi, do you know any link related to Terra cotta? banduwgs: OK. Let me finalize decistion on point 6. Site seeing. banduwgs: Camp committee decided Option 1. Terra cotta visit (we did not finalized it) it might change in future. Do you agree (Y/N)? hikita_a: Y chinashixh: y ebichan_kung: Y banduwgs: Shi, Kung, Amare? amaraw61: y banduwgs: Next Item: 8. Islamic food issue. banduwgs: Shi: Could you check with hotel on htis issue? chinashixh: ok. but i still do not know the "hilal food" clearly banduwgs: Additionally, when we do hotel survery in Xi'an before the camp, let's pay specail attention to this. chinashixh: can we check menu after we arrive there? chinashixh: banduwgs: Additionally, when we do hotel survery in Xi'an before the camp, let's pay specail attention to this. >> sure sumith banduwgs: ok. but i still do not know the "hilal food" clearly >>> You can just say "Halal food for muslims". Generally, hotels know about this. banduwgs: OK. Let's wait for the hotel survey to address this issue. banduwgs: Any more concerns on this (Y/N)? If Yes what it is? ebichan_kung: Can i order pork seperately for me and someone if they want? chinashixh: ok. it will be more easier to check in the hotel chinashixh: N hikita_a: N banduwgs: Kung, Amare, Hikita-son? amaraw61: We have to ask abdur to further clarify this halal food banduwgs: Next point: 9. Streaming service. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: Can i order pork seperately for me and someone if they want? >> sure. we can order more if the food is not enough ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: kungait Boonrat: Can i order pork seperately for me and someone if they want? >> sure. we can order more if the food is not enough>>OK thanks. banduwgs: Hikita-son, are you ready with all? What do you want from camp-committee. chinashixh: Jayatunga Amaraweera: We have to ask abdur to further clarify this halal food >> better to have one to check on site amaraw61: Pork may contain more Cholesterol, better to avoid amaraw61: It's Medical advice hikita_a: Yes, everything is fine. I did setup my PC today for encode. banduwgs: Can i order pork seperately for me and someone if they want? >>> I personally, think it is better to stick with a common food menu since there will be more items to select with. Otherwise it will make the order bit complecated. ebichan_kung: Jayatunga Amaraweera: Pork may contain more Cholesterol, better to avoid>>i will try. hikita_a: I will ask Kondo-san to make a website for streaming next monday. banduwgs: Yes, everything is fine. I did setup my PC today for encode. >>> Great. banduwgs: I will ask Kondo-san to make a website for streaming next monday. >>> Excellent! This was my question to be be next! You answered me in advance! thanks :) banduwgs: Any more concerns on Video streaming (Y/N). If yes what it is? ebichan_kung: N banduwgs: Amare, Hikita, Shi? hikita_a: N amaraw61: n chinashixh: N banduwgs: 10. APNG presentation on AP* meeting. banduwgs: I will prepare the presentation for 20 min for this and share with you for your feedback. banduwgs: I will take part in this meeting iwth Tommy-son on 26th. banduwgs: Any concerns on this? (Y/N). If yes, what it is? ebichan_kung: N hikita_a: N amaraw61: N banduwgs: Shi? chinashixh: only you and Tommy-san will go to AP*, right? ebichan_kung: Xiaohui Shi: only you and Tommy-san will go to AP*, right?>>i think so. chinashixh: ok. isee banduwgs: only you and Tommy-san will go to AP*, right? >>> Hm.... yes, that's what Tommy-son suggested. But I will never mind you presenting at AP* meeting as APNG chair. I have already done this in Bali. If you are interested in taking part in this please let Tommy-son know. I am happy to give you the oppotunity. banduwgs: Shi: What do you think? amaraw61: great chinashixh: banduwgs: only you and Tommy-san will go to AP*, right? >>> Hm.... yes, that's what Tommy-son suggested. But I will never mind you presenting at AP* meeting as APNG chair. I have already done this in Bali. If you are interested in taking part in this please let Tommy-son know. I am happy to give you the oppotunity. >> please go ahead with your presentation. if i am free then, i may join. you see, there are lots of things to do in Xi'an:) banduwgs: please go ahead with your presentation. if i am free then, i may join. you see, there are lots of things to do in Xi'an >>> OK. chinashixh: hope you will give an excellent presentation banduwgs: That's all from my agenda.... Any thing else? chinashixh: please wait chinashixh: i have one more thing to let you konw banduwgs: hope you will give an excellent presentation >>> Thanks. I will try my best! banduwgs: i have one more thing to let you konw >>> go ahead. amaraw61: We like to see a chinese dances from local fellows at the Costume Party banduwgs: Others: meanwhile do you have any other issues? chinashixh: as I know, one local fellow told me that he cannot go to camp with a high probability banduwgs: We like to see a chinese dances from local fellows at the Costume Party >>> Shi please organize this for us ;) chinashixh: Xiaohui Shi: as I know, one local fellow told me that he cannot go to camp with a high probability >> i ask him to send an email to Kung if he have decided ebichan_kung: who is he? chinashixh: kung, please pay attention to that. i am not sure now banduwgs: as I know, one local fellow told me that he cannot go to camp with a high probability >>> Who is he/she? when he/she will confirm this? Please ask him/her not to be late... chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: who is he? >> Yang Chen chinashixh: banduwgs: as I know, one local fellow told me that he cannot go to camp with a high probability >>> Who is he/she? when he/she will confirm this? Please ask him/her not to be late... >> i will ask him again ebichan_kung: i have not received email from him yet. chinashixh: kungait Boonrat: i have not received email from him yet. >> i told him two hours ago banduwgs: kungait Boonrat: who is he? >> Yang Chen >>> Please let him/her know that it is not good to behave in this way. Of course what I meant is if he/she giveup without informing. chinashixh: banduwgs: kungait Boonrat: who is he? >> Yang Chen >>> Please let him/her know that it is not good to behave in this way. Of course what I meant is if he/she giveup without informing. >> i have told him. if he decide not to go, he will send the email to Kung banduwgs: It is a waste of many people effort money and chance of another participant. Please ask them to take it serious. When they get something free, there are many people working hard behind it. It is very important for them to realize this. amaraw61: Exactly true Sumith banduwgs: By the way: Thanks Shi for letting us know this in advance. at least tentatively. chinashixh: banduwgs: It is a waste of many people effort money and chance of another participant. Please ask them to take it serious. When they get something free, there are many people working hard behind it. It is very important for them to realize this. >> :) however, if he give up fellowship, we will save some money banduwgs: however, if he give up fellowship, we will save some money >>> But we loose whole purpose of our effort & the money collected from all the sponsors :( chinashixh: :) banduwgs: Of course this is not the way to save money at all! chinashixh: it will depend on his final decision chinashixh: that is all about this matter amaraw61: Money is something, but the chance who missed is of more concern. banduwgs: OK. Thanks for all your cordination you do in China. We really appreciate it. Let's try to get all of them in. banduwgs: Alright any more concerns??? banduwgs: (Y/N) please. If yes what it is?? chinashixh: no from me ebichan_kung: N hikita_a: Nothing especially banduwgs: Amare, Kung? amaraw61: I must appreciate your untiring effort ,Shi! Go ahead to make the Camp a very successful event amaraw61: N banduwgs: Kung??? ebichan_kung: i said N ebichan_kung: thanks all and good night. banduwgs: Alrigh, then we are all done for the day. Thanks for all you took part today meeting. chinashixh: Jayatunga Amaraweera: I must appreciate your untiring effort ,Shi! Go ahead to make the Camp a very successful event >> sure chinashixh: then we will meet in Xi'an banduwgs: Thanks for taking all trough for last one year of taking online meeting with me. amaraw61: Thank you all, Good night. We eagerly waiting to see you all in Xian hikita_a: Thanks for your hard work, Sumith. chinashixh: thanks for your hard work. sumith banduwgs: i said N >>> Sorry, I did not noticed1 banduwgs: Hope to see you all in Xi'an and have a fantastic camp. ebichan_kung: i will send the chat log. amaraw61: Also, my sincere thanks are due to you Sumith for your hard work and all the kindness banduwgs: i will send the chat log. >>>> Please Kung. Additionally, when you have time, please convert this and last meeting log to minutes and update the website. chinashixh: thank you all amaraw61: Good bye to all banduwgs: Alright we had a useful discussion for almost 4 hours. Please enjoy your rest of the night with sweet dreams! ebichan_kung: OK Sumith. Sorry we missed it last time. hikita_a: Good night and have a nice weekend. banduwgs: Good night! Happy travel to Xi'an! chinashixh: good night banduwgs: Awating to see you in Xi'an! Bye for the day! chinashixh: have a nice journey in China:) ebichan_kung: good night all